Diverses Equipment leihweise für eine Woche benötigt..

[KT-1]

Habe diesen oder so ähnlich

http://www.tauchversand.com/Hebesack-25 ... &ci=000510" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Diese Woche wird es leider nichts mehr, aber Anfang nächster Woche gerne.

[neil richardson]

Mate,

Sounds like you are about to do the IANTD Trimix!??! the standards of kit requirements were written about 15 years ago and havent been updated. Drop an email to your Instructor, but 90% of them accept if you bring two DSMB's with you, one yellow one red, rather then a "lift bag" and a DSMB.. The old Lift bag being there for in case you lost your only source of bouyancy,,,,,

Neil

[ChristophL]

von wann bis wann fliegst Du denn??

Ich könnte bis zum 23.08 auf ein 40lbs Halcyon Evolve verzichten. Danach fahre ich über das Wochenende nach Hemmoor und brauche es wieder...

[Submatx]

Danke Ihr zwei..
Das wichtigste ist allerdings das Doppelblasen Wing..
..

Ich hab ein große OMS Doppelblasen Wing, da muss ich nur noch den einen Inflatorschlauch ranmachen.
Könnte ich dir leihen.

[Nitrogenius]

Danke Ihr zwei..
Das wichtigste ist allerdings das Doppelblasen Wing..
..

Ich hab ein große OMS Doppelblasen Wing, da muss ich nur noch den einen Inflatorschlauch ranmachen.
Könnte ich dir leihen.

Das ist doch mal ein Wort..
Das wäre genau das Richtige.. Sonnst hätte ich zwei Blasen übereinander gepackt..

Habe diesen oder so ähnlich

http://www.tauchversand.com/Hebesack-25 ... &ci=000510" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Diese Woche wird es leider nichts mehr, aber Anfang nächster Woche gerne.

Der ist perfekt.. Anfang nächster Woche passt auch noch..
Donnerstag gehts dann los..

Mate,

Sounds like you are about to do the IANTD Trimix!??! the standards of kit requirements were written about 15 years ago and havent been updated. Drop an email to your Instructor, but 90% of them accept if you bring two DSMB's with you, one yellow one red, rather then a "lift bag" and a DSMB.. The old Lift bag being there for in case you lost your only source of bouyancy,,,,,

Neil

That is correct Neil, doing it in Egypt though.. They might be 15 years back as well
I already did ask whether SMBs where ok, but they are not..
Interesting to know where the requirements for the lifting back comes from though..
Even more interesting that they ask for a double Bladder wing (or a drysuit) and still ask for the lifting bag..
Well as I said.. Egypt

Not expecting to learn too much new stuff though.. more doing it for the ticket as this allows me to cross over to CC hypoxic Trimix dircectly whereas on the CC route with IANTD I would have to do the normoxic upfront no matter what.. And I do not see any sense in that because that is the diving I am actually already doing with the ART ticket..
TDI would allow me to go for the adv Trimix CC directly but there the TX ticket will also be unit specific and not geneeric like with IANTD...

von wann bis wann fliegst Du denn??

Ich könnte bis zum 23.08 auf ein 40lbs Halcyon Evolve verzichten. Danach fahre ich über das Wochenende nach Hemmoor und brauche es wieder...

Komme am 23. zurück.. hätte also gepasst wär abr mit der Übergabe ggf. stressig..
Doppelblasen-Wing ist die bevorzugte Alternative, aber Danke

[neil richardson]

Now, did you say to them SMB's!?!? or DSMB's!?! BIG BIG BIG HUGE HUMUNGOUS difference....

The teaching specifications were that you must always have one DSMB / lift bag to send to the surface, and at least one redundant form of bouyancy... hence, 2 x DSMB'S where allowed, but SMB'S are not.

The seperation from SMB's being that SMB's dont have to be sealed... and part of the IANTD course is you have to put up a DSMB / lift bag, from mid water.

On a side, you practicing taking off your dive gear and putting it back on again in mid water??? as thats one of the only fails on teh course..

[Nitrogenius]

Now, did you say to them SMB's!?!? or DSMB's!?! BIG BIG BIG HUGE HUMUNGOUS difference....

The teaching specifications were that you must always have one DSMB / lift bag to send to the surface, and at least one redundant form of bouyancy... hence, 2 x DSMB'S where allowed, but SMB'S are not.

The seperation from SMB's being that SMB's dont have to be sealed... and part of the IANTD course is you have to put up a DSMB / lift bag, from mid water.

On a side, you practicing taking off your dive gear and putting it back on again in mid water??? as thats one of the only fails on teh course..

Yes we've been discussing sealed and unsealed SMBs.. must be a lift bag..
Didn't know the difference between DSMBs and SMBs was being sealed or not.. something learned again..

Not sure what you are reffering to in taking off dive gear in Mid water..
As far as I can read from the specs:

"Remove and replace stage cylinders both at rest and while swimming.
Deploy and use a lift bag or up line at least once in OW.
Remove and replace equipment during confined water training (doubles and stage[s]), first on the surface, then on the bottom, in less than 2 minutes."

this is no different then to the rest of the courses I had with IANTD so far, where the gear removement was always part of the course which I never experienced issues with..
But if you are refering to Mid water as in the blue half between bottom and surface, this would be a different story, which once more would be questionable which sense this would have..
Just a couple of months ago there was a discussion on the sense of this at the bottom at Diving group where it was kind of hard to find an argument why someone would need such skill in reality.. With a possible (actually still a bit weak but I can follow that) reason being entangled with the equipment and thus having to get out of it.. clear the situation and then having to get back in..
But Mid water?? Ok if I am entangled somehwere midwater it again is something different as there would be a fixing point for the equipment..

Anhow in Safag I doubt it would be excersized differently from the Technical diver course where it was done as described above in confined water training at the bottom..and this being no big deal.. however I have to admit I have never done it with a drysuit.. but then over there I won't have a drysuit

[neil richardson]

Hi mate,

the "instructor" standards are that you are "supposed" to take off your dive gear, and put it back on, without touching the bottom... hence, hovering in blue water.

As for DSMB's and SMB's, the difference is a DSMB can be put up from the bottom or in mid water, whereas an SMB is ONLY for surface use.

Further, SMB's are normally taken to be nothing more then safety sausages, so are not really designed to have someone on a line doing deco underneath them. Whereas, lift bags and good quality DSMB's are......

Am i making sense???

Anyhow, youre doing it in Egypt, different rules apply there

[Nitrogenius]

the "instructor" standards are that you are "supposed" to take off your dive gear, and put it back on, without touching the bottom... hence, hovering in blue water.

Good thing I am a diver only
Never had to do it without touching ground in fact the equipment always was layed on the ground, also when the instructor was showing the skill..

Am i making sense???

Sure.. I guess we just don't do that difference.. When I talk about SMB, I ceratintly always mean DSMB as you described and a lot of people I know use it the same way, however mostly reffered to in German as "Boje" only without any distinction..

[Nitrogenius]

Danke Ihr zwei..
Das wichtigste ist allerdings das Doppelblasen Wing..
..

Ich hab ein große OMS Doppelblasen Wing, da muss ich nur noch den einen Inflatorschlauch ranmachen.
Könnte ich dir leihen.

Hi Mat,

wann und wie bekommen wir denn die Übergabe hin?
Fliege Donnerstag los..

Gruß,
Frank